Btw Ciputra is elected Entrepreneur of the Year? Don’t we have someone else?

@Fatih: An educated and highly skilled young generation who expect to get a job, instead of creating one, is a half-baked man to me. The real man mindset should be how to live in dignity with your own feet first, and how to help others–the less skillful ones– by creating opportunities for them –>Strong critique but I agree. I am not insulted although I am still an employee of a company. I m thinking of doing my own business. My other position is that not all people are born to do business. Regards,

What do all of them “half baked” consultants of E&Y have to say about that?

For that matter entrepeneurs are necessary, but diligent, honest, educated, capable, incorruptible employees and officials have to do the real trick.

Most entrepreneur in our country has good educated background and some just lucky person. We must thing 2 aspect being success on our business, one Skill and 2nd lucky. Without lucky, even though you hard worker, you’ll got nothing. This just personal opinion, without deny any other opinions.

how about the jobless guys like me, no lucky and no company. it will far from entrepreneur award hehehe….

@Kurnia: the post is highlighting a phenomenon in Indonesia, not a particular individual. so of course you dont need to feel embarassed or something to that effect. the gloomy phenomenon is that most indonesian, young and old, feel that the standard of success is when one gets a job–remember, not creating a job–in (1)government office as civil servant or PNS; (2) in a state-run company called BUMN as it sometimes another way to get into a PNS opportunity (3) in foreign investment company, particularly financial institution (bank, etc). The hierarchy is in particular order.

I’d argue that this mindset is wrong. Terribly misleading. and we should change this.

I think <b>Colson (comment #2)</b> should read it in this context. The word I expressed may be too strong, but i feel, considering the prevalent situation, it may need an even stronger one. At the same time, I also believe, that the so-called great consultants of E&Y have another plan for themselves: as an exercise / self-training for setting up their own company later. That what Dahlan Iskan of Jawa Pos group had been doing when he worked for Tempo magazine–as a self-training– he said.

Highly skilled Indonesian should understand this; they should tell their parents and make them understand that the standard of success should be when one reach a sort of freedom financially i.e. by being an entrepreneur; not an employee however big the salary is.

Also, young generation should “teach” their parents that you cannot be rich, especially when work in government office, unless you sacrifice your dignity, honesty and integrity. And that you dont want to do that.

@Pogung: we know whether we’re lucky or not when we try every means available without wich it’d be considered as justification for our slumber and laziness.

I strongly feel the different between between an employer and employee is only this: confident.

Most of those people who had gained the worship are people with high-sense of business. They have dedicated their live for what they have been struggling. Congratulation to them!

who should i blame? my parents maybe.. they didn’t teach me to be an enterpreneur..

It’s all award achieved begin from one little step. We can not just dreamed, start your step now and hope you will be on the list next year!

if all people in indonesia decide to establish their own company, disregard whether it’s small or big..who shall work for their company?

i believe we must also appreciate both employer and the employee. Employee, are as well businessman/woman for their skill/knowledge. they must manage how to ‘rent’ or ’sell’ their skill and knowledge to the employer.

No?

@Roffi:

who should i blame? my parents maybe

No. Our parents have tried their best to see their kids succeed. Being an employee in government or MNC etc is what they think is the best. time has changed , however. it’s the duty of the “kids” to change too. One should start by thinking that sucess is not by becoming an employee; success should be when you become an employer.

@Conami: agreed. it should start from a small step. only then will you have the hope to be on the list, next year or next decade doesn’t matter. the winning mindset does.

@Mulia:

if all people in indonesia decide to establish their own company, disregard whether it’s small or big..who shall work for their company?

Never happen in history. there’ll be a person or a group of persons who, for some reasons, should be an employee at least for a while. Dahlan Iskan is an employee for Tempo before creating his own, meaning he worked for Tempo as a ‘transit’ for a bigger plan; to set up his own company one day which he did and flourish. (it’s also another response to Colso, comment #2, I’m sure, Colson, that the so-called ‘great consultant’ of E&Y make their being in the company as a transit)

The thing is we should not waste our highly skilled quality to be permanently used for other people company when we actually could and have the ability to create one. And we should not use our high position in other companies as a matter of our perennial pride. It’s absurd yet ironically it’s what happen among majority of Indonesian people mindset.

We should change that and change it now.